The third time I hear people talk about "data availability / ordering / finality" as if it's some kind of mysticism... I'm going to focus on one main point now: who do you trust to decide the "sequence," and whether it ultimately fails or not. DA, simply put, is "whether others can access the raw data for verification"; ordering is "who can cut in line"; finality is "whether you're willing to accept that it's already over." Many governance discussions argue over terminology, but in the end, it all comes down to whether to shift trust from one place to another. Recently, the stacking of benefits in pledge/sharing security systems has been criticized as a copycat scheme, which I can understand: packaging "finality" as multi-layered returns sounds appealing, but if something goes wrong, the person who takes the blame will immediately quiet down. Anyway, my microphone is still off, and I just want to ask: when problems occur, how long do you plan to make users wait before considering it "final"?